Nice contribution. Mine did not have the adjuster on top just smooth round, but it turns up and down,. This is technically a sling loop, but tons of people have used these as ghost ring sights on top of pump shotguns and love them. Out of stock. Saiga-12.com Corporation OUT OF STOCK (0) Benelli Nova Pump Ghost Ring Sights. Ive beenn holding off getting one b/c I wasnt sure what it would look like. Buy It Now. REAR SIGHT: Use a Glock 19 Rear Ghost ring sight like Enterprise Arms or AmeriGlow, FRONT SIGHT BLOCK: Use Dinzag's because it is aesthetically pleasing and XS 24/7 Tritium Front Sight Post. BTW: Entreprise Arms (your link above) sells the Glock 19 rear ghost ring night sight for $39 (I'm not sure if it is the night version. Features: White on black front post that is perfect for all light conditions. I was originally going to sight the crosshairs for shot and the dot for slugs but after experimenting a bit I think this proved unfeasible. INFO: Bossman's post with installation pictures on AKFiles.com: http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showpost.php...mp;postcount=17. Feels kinda good. lokmeup, So if you want a different color in the rear sight, Entreprise is the way to go. Is there some guy like Suarez that has an opinion on this matter? Get over the look of the pinch bolts, it's the best one out there. September 19, 2008 in Saiga-12. It's hard to beat the Krebs Ghost Ring for sight picture. I found some by Krebs that bolt on a new front sight post and uses a ghost ring in the factory rear location. History. Rear sight is of "ghost ring" type which can accept a replaceable aperture (aperture shown for illustration only). $95 - $105 Carolina Shooter's Supply Tactical Sights - Bolt-on sights with a fiber optic point-of-aim. I may have actually even helped someone. On a longarm though, that rear sight is always in the same place. Very little clearance around the "ears" of the sight tower. By Major PIA. XS rear (H&K) sight is really an upgrade sight. http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6830. × I don't have a Saiga with AK-type sights, but if I did, I would put the eastern block night sights on it. Where does the rear HK XS Sight system ring mount? I would say no, because I talk about the Tromix Night Sight specifically and why it is not what I am looking for. Ameriglo will not sell the rear separate and only offers green. Big dot on top of big dot= really fast sqcuisition. The AK V-clamp can easily be mounted to any of the following rifles equipped with the standard side rail: AK-47, AKM, AK-74, Vepr, Saiga, K-var, … Add to Wish List Add to Compare. I would like to see both and be able to aim with accuracy. You can post now and register later. I had a hard time getting the double hooded KNS cross hairs in the Krebs front too, I had to make a special tool out of aluminum. FEATURES: Front sight is made from 1018 case hardened steel, clamps on barrel and features an AR-15 front post and detent. The thing I don't like about the Krebs style is the aesthetic look of the clamp on FSB and the rear ghost ring has no Tritium inserts. Shop our large variety of saiga accessories and ak 47 tactical conversion stock kits. The front sight is made from pre-hardened 4130 chrome-moly steel while the rear sight is made from 1018 case hardened steel. I want to keep this thread alive...really good stuff to see how it develops. I have no experience with either sight system on the Saiga, preferring the pistol-style rear and the Russian bolt-on FST. The unmolested Saiga-12 IZ-109 Rear Sight Leaf. The Tromix version also does not have any rear Tritium inserts. I was looking for something better than the factory sights and the short sight radius. Side note: You know, I just realized something; I think this may be the first post where I actually had something useful to contribute. I know otherrs differ on this but the HK is attached to the dust cover the dust cover is not securly mounted ie it moves, that could throw off your slug shots by a lot. Although pricey, an extra $120, the HK XS sight systems setup is hard to beat. You get a ghost ring at the back, close to your eye, with a hooded tritium front. So, here is my idea: This idea is based on my use of Scattergun Technologies Ghost Ring Sights with the Front AND rear Trijicon inserts. Just hoping this is not an either/or thread, but looking for the best sight.If so, I will chime in.? Does theKNS Duplex screw into the front raised Krebs sight in place of the original peice? Krebs no doubt but to make it even better get a KNS cross hair front sight, to replace the AR front sight post. Hooded meaning the ring is thicker. Ooo-kay, well for whatever weird reasons I cannot seem to be able to upload the last two pics. Thanks. I have since gone with a Doctor's size Red Dot mounted to a small picatinny rail welded to the gas tube. I am digging it. I went and bought the same set up at your reccomendations! AND I FREAKIN' LOVE IT!!! Semi auto short, SPAS assisted, 870 competition barrel extended, 590a1 with ghost ring sights, Saiga 12 with triangle folder Saved by Jeff Scheffler People also love these ideas If I just wanted a tritium on the front, that seems like a good option with the stock rear sight. ATI saiga rifle tactical stock set with pistol grip and .223 rifle accessories. The tolerances were so tight that I needed a jeweler's screw driver to adjust the post up and down because there was no gap around it and the indentations were so small on the sight post. Nick id s lifelong gun enthusiast who has a simple mission. I also have both. Large Ghost-Ring affords great field of view for fast target acquisition. I've never tried using them at night, but I can't imagine the glowing rear sight to be anything but annoying, you want to blur that out! I'd like to buy a Saiga 16.3" carbine in .223, but my middle-aged eyes need something better than the AK type sights that are on it. I'm wondering whether these would be better than the XS? They can also special order orange or red color instead of green. After some more research it looks like Cobra used a rear sight from a Vent Rib Saiga12 IZ-108. Bead and open sights are easy and quick to use with shot. nero The HK XS sight system Tony mentioned does sound nice, but I'd like to see what the other two setups offer. http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0190.jpg. It features a clean-out tube, metal trigger guard and safety, black rubber buttplate, and a drilled and tapped receiver. Glock Tritium Ghost Rings = $100 (Might be less if you could just order the rear sight.). OUT OF STOCK (0) Benelli M2 Tactical w/Pistol Grip Stock, Ghost Ring Sights. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I always wondered if you took one of the holes on the hk site and bored it out to the same diameter as a ghost ring site,if you would have the best of both worlds. After some more research, I have found another way to bring Ghost sights to the Saiga12. Go with the Krebs and up grade it with a KNS Cross hair front sight that is a tough combination to beat. As an additional option, I would also look into Dinzag's sights as he has one that is similar to the Krebs. Slide mounted ghost ring fits all standard size Williams WGRS or WGOS rear sight bases. Anybody has a pic of a gun with that system on? × I find these type of sight to be the best for HD, due to their quick target acquisition in low light conditions. Buy It Now. I know otherrs differ on this but the HK is attached to the dust cover the dust cover is not securly mounted ie it moves, that could throw off your slug shots by a lot. Front sight is made from 1018 case hardened steel, clamps on barrel and features an AR-15 front post and detent. I'll get the hang of this sooner or later. Thanks for the advice! $109.95. The circle is perfectly centered over the receiver, it is non adjustable, and appears to be a great height for the VEPR 12 front post. × I'm cheap, cause it lets me buy more guns! It appears that after trimming the RSB there will still be a thin sliver of the sight block between the newly installed Ghost Ring Sight and the grove the front of the top cover slips into when installed. Go with the Krebs and up grade it with a KNS Cross hair front sight that is a tough combination to beat. Saiga-12.com Corporation Open sights are often a compromise that works okay with both. There are a couple of current ghost rings styles companies are making (Tromix, Krebs). That Docter on a low rail is a hot setup. The ghost ring rear on the Civet is pretty fragile, though – one or two hard drops and it’ll be unusable. Or at least as advertised, the Tromix Tritium Ghost Ring Sights do not have any Tritium inserts in the rear ghost ring. Not too familiar with sights so I'm wondering what difference there are between the krebs ghost ring sights and the hk sights? Sight 1 - GG&G "HK hook style sling thing" (thats really what its called).   You cannot paste images directly. Display as a link instead, × Not a big saving over the set. Powered by Invision Community. After careful filing and constant checking fitment of the dovetail on the Glock Tritium Rear Ghost Sight drift it into the dovetail cut into the Saiga rear sight block. I have the Krebs on my S-12. Saiga 12 & Vepr 12 Elevated Steel Front Sight - EFS-S12 . How does the tritium insert work with the dinzag? I have also heard the other colors are not as bright as the green, so they wont stand out too much and distract from the front during aiming. The thing I don't like about the Krebs style is the aesthetic look of the clamp on FSB and the rear ghost ring has no Tritium inserts. I consider myself a novice still and have only shot slugs with my Mossberg with the bead sight and of course my Saiga with the factory sights so being able to look down the barrel through these Kreb's and hit a soda can at about 40 yards felt real nice. I can see it on a pistol, as you don't really know where the rear sight is if you change your grip, like you might in a tense situation. Otherwise Ameriglo set is cheaper than Entreprise rear only. Also, did you look at these tritium inserts instead, http://www.dinzagarms.com/misc_parts/aksight.html. Please remember that this version is the Hooded Duplex. Watch; Shotgun Rear Adjustable Ghost Ring Sight - White Dot. About The Author. 3 Dealextreme Tritium keychains = $30 shipped. If you still want to do the rear ghost too: buy some tritium vials, drill the ring to fit as many vials you want, where you want them, affix them with clear RTV. I consider myself a novice still and have only shot slugs with my Mossberg with the bead sight and of course my Saiga with the factory sights so being able to look down the barrel through these Kreb's and hit a soda can at about 40 yards felt real nice.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Has anyone tried this set up on a 109? This might be cost prohibitive to do as an individual, but if a shop want to invest in this idea, they could probably get down to a Retail of $200? The rear Ghost Ring can be installed both ways, correctly and requires some trimming of the Saiga12 rear sight block or backwards and requires no modification to the Saiga12. Is the HK XS compatible with a top gas tube welded rail?!? 590A1 - 9 Shot - XS Ghost Ring Sights +4Stock #51771 . 930 spx 18.5in 12 ga matte blue black lpa ghost ring sights 8+1rd. Wilson Combat 7 Round Standard 12 Ga. w/Ghost Ring Sights/Sy. Sorry. Powered by Invision Community. So, without much difficulty the Williams WGRS-DISC rear peep sight could be installed on the Saiga with two 8-32 screws from inside the top cover. What I don't like about front sight posts is that some times I would sight in on a brush guard not the post so something had to be done. Thanks for fixing my pic, Bob. Went out with the new Krebs Ghost Ring sights this last weekend and am impressed. Paste as plain text instead, × The rear sight can accept replaceable apertures. Also I mistakenly got the Duplex version (has a vertically adjustable dot) which is great for a rifle but seems pretty unecessary on a shottie. Windage is zeroed by rotating the front sight right or left (locktite … http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0367.jpg, http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0368.jpg. Odd. Ditto +1 I have XS on both my 8" & 12" S17's and really is hard to beat. Sorry about the crappy pic, didn't take it intending to show the crosshairs.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Something I lso talk about not liking. Brand New. I've got the KNS hooded crosshair post in my Krebs sight and while it works great I gotta say, its just about impossible to get a good grip on it to screw it in between the "ears" of the front sight. So I have just about all of my mods to my saiga but the sights.   Pasted as rich text. $124.99. As we all obsess over how we are going to modify our Saiga-12's to be better than factory, so have I. I like what I see available, but I am trying to make it the exact way I want it. mossberg (in stock) 0.0. sight kit, ghost ring. OK. Some of the first innovations in firearms involved developing some form of aiming device to allow for greater accuracy. I like the Krebs idea of a small circle within a circle. $54.95. Remember this is the hooded version; it has a thicker protective hood than the regular version. ernestmayhand, As stated in other threads, the Glock 19 dovetail is slightly larger than the Saiga dovetail grove. You don't need a Glock front sight tool if … IF it does/can, it would be more of an option, but I believe it still comes with the clamp-on FSB. Paste as plain text instead, × AR-15 style fixed nylon ghost ring sights further enhance the high quality blued steel heatshield which has elongated cooling slots. If I could do it again, I'd just get the regular crosshairs. Unconditional Lifetime Warranty. Installation isn't a problem (Tromix is doing this) so mainly just wondering along the lines of functionality. I'll post pics when I get a chance.   You cannot paste images directly. Made from pre-hardened 4130 chrome-moly steel. Krebb’s Iron Sights. PS: This is not an attack against any company, I am just trying to figure out what I want for my Saiga.... Go to the parts page, scroll down to the bottom, anything like that XS sight system? You can post now and register later. It seems the Browning T-Bolt Rifle has the same receiver curvature as the AK top cover. That, and the lower priced front insert from Dinzag ($50), brings the cost of this down to $184 + shipping! But if you are in total darkness, aiming at a guy under who is visible near a light somewhere that isn't lighting you up, or if it is just totally dark & you are fixing to spotlight, ID him & blast a guy at night in your house, it is nice to have the sights lined up before you make you presence known, you know so there is one less thing to do in that critical moment... Is this set up (Dinzig+tritium insert) adjustable for elevation and windage? http://www.coloradoshooting.org/kns.htm I use this on my AR also. Special Price $49.95 Regular Price $69.95. It creates a ring around another ring (the front sight guard is rounded) with an AR15 four-prong post in the middle. The front sight clamps onto the barrel and features an AR-15 front post and detent. The HK does have it all over the Krebs in the Panaché department IMO. On my springfield I have yellow rears and a green front. Oh, and keep in mind that you're trying to depress the front sight detent pin at the same time. The BelOMO collimator red dot sight scope PK-AB is designed for fast target accusation and precise pointing at the target when shooting in different lighting conditions - during the day, at dusk, or conditions of insufficient visibility.. I was thinking about one of these for the front sight. Get the Dinzag front sight, grind the post down to the fat part, and drill it out. Installation was extremely easy and it took about 10 minutes. How hard is it to get the glock sight in the rear? Mossberg 590M Ghost RIng sights for sale, a 12 gauge mag-fed tactical shotgun that is just a winner. I think I prefer the upper HK MP5 but both look great to me. And is the difference also in where they're mounted on the gun? Notice the scratches on the top of the post? Free shipping. Made from pre-hardened 4130 chrome-moly steel. $45 with a C&R, http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/pro...160&s=50751. It cures a lot of the problems with the sights blurring together. Clear editor. XS Ghost-Ring hunting sights offer improved accuracy and faster sight acquisition in a rugged all-steel design. Add to Cart. The front sight is just the right diameter to pick up in the rear ghost ring and does not float around inside the ring like a smaller front sight would. … Clear editor. Duplex meaning it has an adjustable dot in addition to the crosshairs. Adjusting the Kreb's sight post (stock A2 style) was hard as hell to get started since mine was all the way down when I recieved it. Steel Heatshield; Elongated Cooling Slots; Matte Black Finish; AR-15 Style Fixed Nylon ghost Ring Sights; 13-1/2" long 1. It's a terrific sight upgrade for your AK rear sight and it is easily installed-replacing the rough, factory-furnished U-notch-blade rear sight with a Ghost Ring giving you that faster, more precise sight … The unmolested Saiga-12 IZ-109 Rear Sight Leaf Remove the factory rear leaf The Trimmed Saiga-12 rear sight block. By Which one of the two option does Tony/Tromix use? Thanks. Iron Sights for Saiga Shotguns Krebs Custom Saiga 12 Combat Sights - Bolt-on sights with a ghost-ring rear sight that replaces the factory rear sight. Further measurement would be necessary and trimming would have to be exactly flat with the top of the dovetail groove. And which glock ghost ring did you use? With all due respect.... did you read my entire post before you commented? To be honest I'm not completely sure I've got it in all the way. Use with existing factory front sight or with Williams Fiber Optic Rifle Sight Bead. The first man portable firearm with rifle sights was the Arquebus, invented in the 15th century. The ghost ring sight is a form of aperture sight developed more recently for use with firearms. Thanks, that is a great setup! Love to see that and maybe get one set up from you like that for playtime. I think you have a good idea there, not cheap but far better than factory. Display as a link instead, × I've searched but found inconclusiive results. Front sight is made from 1018 case hardened steel, clamps on barrel and features an AR-15 front post and detent. Can ANYONE please post pic(s) of their Saiga with a KNS addition ? I think the ghost ring style would be faster to aquire than the diopter style. ATI Shotforce Deluxe Shotgun Heat Shield With Cooling Slots & Ghost Ring Sight fits Most 12, 16, 20, and .410 Bore shotguns. I like it, but next time I think just welding a steel Doctors base directly to the gas tube would be better. The hooded post is a bit thicker and leaves almost no clearance to get it screwed all the way in. For shooting at something I prefer the Krebs; the HK will work but not as well. As a result it requires careful filing to fit perfectly tight. The Krebb’s Iron sights consist of the front post pictured above and a ghost ring rear that sits in the slot on top of the gas tube of the Saiga-12. Oh well, anyway heres a link to photobucket to see what the sight picture looks like with the KNS post. I have hears some say that a rear tritium distracts from the ghosting effect of the rear ring when you are supposed to be focusing on the front sight. Maybe Dinzag would want to look into distributing the rear ghosts and offering a package of the three for lower cost. 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